Feature: Testament and Exodus – Coping with COVID
On paper, it looked like a brilliant idea ā the recent comprehensive “Bay Strikes Back” month-long tour of Europe, featuring Bay Area thrash-metal stalwarts Testament, Exodus, and Death Angel. It was just the timing ā Feb. 6 to March 11 ā that proved a bit unfortunate. It happened to coincide with the appearance of the deadly coronavirus pandemic, just as it escalated its attack overseas. āSo we were on tour there just watching this whole thing unfold in front of our eyes,ā shudders Testament vocalist Chuck Billy, 57. āThree and a half weeks into our five-week tour, we canceled Italy and watched the news as things unraveled, and there were suddenly new recommendations for crowd capacity at events and gatherings. And the first thing that crossed my mind was, āAre we gonna be able to get home?āā
He was right to worry. The entourage barely made it back on March 12. By the time it touched down in San Francisco, ten members had been infected with COVID-19, including Billy, his tour-manager, his wife Tiffany, and Exodus guitarist Gary Holt. Everyone survived, however, and theyāre happy to share their stories with IE readers below.
IE: What happened after Italy?
CHUCK BILLY: The last show was in Hanover, Germany, and the night before, right before doors, the promoter had told us that the next night in Germany had been canceled because of the virus. They had also recommended that they shut the tour down that very night. But the promoter said, āEverybodyās here, the doors are open, just go ahead with it.ā So we got to play the last show of the tour in Belgium. And as we were waking up on the morning of March 12 ā because we all had flights out at 6 a.m. ā we woke up to, āHey ā your president has just declared a travel ban, starting tomorrow!ā And we were like, āOh, great. Get us out of here! Weāve gotta get HOME!ā And once we got on that plane, we were all feeling tired. I mean, it was a five-week tour, youāre burned out, youāre naturally tired. So we just thought, āOh, weāre just tired.ā And my wife was tired. But we got home, and by the next morning, she woke up and she was sick. And I was fine that day, Friday the 13th. But by the morning of the 14th, I woke up and I was a mess. So I called our personal doctor at Kaiser to see what we needed to do, and they said, āWell if you donāt have symptoms, we really canāt test you.ā So we thought, āGreat.ā But two days later, we called back and said, āWell, now we ARE sick, and this is the same situation thatās going around with the ten of us that are sick from a traveling party across Europe. And we all have the same symptoms. And thatās when we sat and waited. They didnāt even medicate us ā they just tested us and said, āIf you have a problem breathing, go ahead and call 911 and weāll bring you back in. Besides that, go home, isolate yourself.ā And that was about it. And Iām not a cigarette smoker, either. I only smoke weed when Iām at home, but never when we go on tour.
IE: And youāre a cancer survivor, too. Not an easy condition to find yourself in.
CB: No. And when we heard that Will (Carroll, drummer) from Death Angel went to the hospital and got a ventilator, this all got even more serious. Because we were all short of breath, too, that was my problem ā I just couldnāt breathe. Iād have problems just going from the bed to the bathroom and back ā Iād be really out of breath. Then it got scary once we heard about Will ā we all had this mental image of the shutdown of our bodies, like āI canāt breathe, either!ā And a kind of panic set in. So then we all just took it a day at a time. Will was on a ventilator for two weeks, and now heās okay, thank God. But we were all very worried because people who go on a ventilator donāt always make it through. Then we heard, āHeās awake!ā And we thought, āThank God.ā He came out of it, and that was awesome.
IE: How did your lungs feel?
CB: My chest hurt ācause it was so sore. My body and bones were aching so much and my chest was tight. Everything was aching. And I usually donāt get sick that much, and when Iād get sick it would just be for a day. But this one, I just could not shake for about two and a half weeks. One day Iād feel good and be up and about and moving, and the next day Iād be wiped out again. Iād get up and feel dizzy. But we were fortunate that we didnāt have fevers. But we had everything else ā no sense of smell, no taste. I was watching my wife add salt to her food. And she never adds salt. I was like, āWow. Our taste buds are shot!ā
IE: What were the worst moments of the experience?
CB: Those first two days, when you feel like youāre getting better. I just could not keep my eyes open. I had no energy. My wife and I were joking that our dog threw up five feet from us, and we were both too exhausted to clean it up. For two days. And those first few days? I have never slept so much. And if Iād had the fever and the sweating, I imagine that it would have been much worse. I could not sleep at night, either ā Iād get in bed at 3:00 a.m. and then just be too sore to get back up. We were just miserable.
IE: How did you self-medicate?
CB: By drinking a lot of water every day. They didnāt give us any specific medication, so it was just a lot of water. And orange juice seemed to help. And a lot of sleeping. And after a week and a half, we finally had the energy to get up and just wash the sheets and clean the clothes and just move again.
IE: And youāre part Native American. Were there any medical solutions you sought through that culture?
CB: Not on this. I had no energy to do a thing. So everything just stopped. No time to think about anything; or work on the business details. We just put that aside. We really couldnāt do a thing.
IE: Chuckās in Discovery Bay, Garyās up in Sacramento. How are you doing, Gary?
GARY HOLT: Iām dealing with some elbow issues. I had an appointment with my orthopedic specialist right when I got home, and of course, all of that shitās canceled. So Iām dealing with fun stuff, like doing my taxes. But Iām gonna pick up the guitar next week and start doing some writing for Exodus. Exodus is the only band Iāve got now, now that Slayerās done, weāre completely retired.
IE: But your coronavirus experience was different from Chuckās, right?
GH: I didnāt get this until I got home from the tour. We flew back on March 12, and on the evening of March 11 they started closing down airports, and I was fine then. But as soon as I landed at SFO, I had a cough. And it got worse and worse until I was sick for a couple of weeks. But Iām one of the lucky ones ā my version of āsickā was equal to a pretty nasty case of the flu. Iām 55, but I wasnāt in any danger. But I had to push to get tested. I e-mailed my doctor at Blue Cross, and he put me through to this Sutter Health hotline, and I called them and went over some of my symptoms. And the lady I spoke to was telling me that I should go to the emergency room, but I was like, āIām not THAT sick. Iām not gonna go there.ā Thatās not what I wanted ā I just wanted a test. And I didnāt want to sit in an emergency room until they finally did it. So I contacted my doctor again, and they actually set up a test for me and my wife. Chuckās wife Tiffany was on tour with us, but my wife wasnāt, and she tested negative.
IE: How did you medicate?
GH: I did everything I had already been doing ā taking over the counter cold remedies, getting lots of water and rest. I already eat a lot of oranges, so I didnāt bother with orange juice.
IE: How did your lungs feel? Some people report that they feel brittle, like glass.
GH: I had a little cough. But I was one of the lucky ones ā my cough never got into my chest, and I had a low-grade fever and a low appetite. And a lot of people have described a loss of sense of smell and taste. But I had something completely different going on ā everything smelled like really pungent garlic powder. It was really weird. My wife would make me something, and it smelled like she just drowned it in garlic powder. I already had no appetite, but then everything tasted and smelled so weird that in two weeks, I lost 16 pounds. I just couldnāt eat. Iād eat a couple of bites just to drive the growl in my stomach away. So I just stayed in bed until I was in the clear. So I feel normal again now. Uhh, as normal as normal can be. But it did take ten days to get my test resultsāa LONG ten days. But on Day Ten they finally called me, late in the day. And now I sure would like to know if Iām immune. Iād like an answer to that. When I first got diagnosed, I posted it on Instagram, but my wife said to take it down. And I did. Because nowadays people are much more concerned with just paying their rent. And when the people are distracted, those in power will seize more power.
IE: Where are we headed?
GH: I dunno. I donāt think life will ever be normal. Not for a long time. Even when weāre able to go out and itās clear, thereās gonna be a long period of suspicion, where nobody wants to get close to anybody anymore. So who knows what itās going to do to live music. But I have faith in governor Newsom that heās not going to lift the shelter in place order until itās safe to do so.
But like the riots [protests] happening in Michigan. People say, āIām putting my faith in the Lord that I wonāt die.ā Really? I donāt care whether you put your faith in the Lord for yourself ā go ahead. Itās like trying to pet that rattlesnake, and you have faith in the Lord, but it bites you in the neck, and you die. Youāre the only one who dies. But now you also have to put faith in the fact that youāre not going to infect 21 more people. They forget all about the word ācontagious.ā Hey ā you can go swinging from high power lines for all I care ā as long as no children are playing beneath you who you can fall on and hurt.
IE: Chuck ā your take?
CB: Well, itās a crazy world that we live in right now. I write songs about this kind of stuff. So maybe weāre on this repetitive cycle that this planet has been enduring since its beginning. Maybe weāre doing it again. Humanityās doing it to itself, destroying the planet. So maybe weāll be starting things all over again because the world has been here for a long time, but a lot has happened because of us in the last hundred years. And I thought after all the wars going on and everything else thatās happened, that weād be more united and together as one. But weāre still just being stupid, doing stupid stuff to ourselves.
IE: Do you have a bugout bag like a lot of doomsday preppers?
CB: Well, instead of a bag, I went and bought a motor home. If shit hits the fan, letās get outta here. We. Are. Gone. We can go live on the reservation somewhere.
–Tom Lanham










