Feature: X-Mas Tidings with Exene Cervenka
Itās not like Exene Cervenka has suddenly been transformed ā through the charming stop-motion animation process of Rankin-Bass ā into a warm, fuzzy feel-good protagonist this year. But the formerly feisty X firebrand has chilled out, post-pandemic, and actually become one Humble new Bumble as her four-decade-old combo heads out on its annual X-Mas Tour with Los Straitjackets this month. In fact, sheās feeling so unusually festive, she might be persuaded to top your Christmas tree with a āRudolphā- delicate star. And itās quite refreshing. At a moment when she might otherwise be scrolling down 2022ās endless Naughty List, sheās chosen to concentrate on niceties instead. āWeāve all worked really hard to make differences in life, whether itās through music or life in general, just helping people or whatever,ā she says of her uplifting new philosophy. āSo we should all take a second to be very proud of that, and then reassess whatās important, and whatās important is each other, and thatās it. Thatās whatās always been important, if you look at your life.
And according to Cervenka, any day on this side of the grass is not too bad ā particularly if youāre still playing and recording with the same California punk musicians you started out with ā like guitarist Billy Zoom, bassist/co-vocalist John Doe, and drummer D.J. Bonebrake, a quartet that sounds as vital as ever on its recent Rob Schnapf-produced āAlphabetlandā comeback, complemented by a bonus-track release called āX-tras.ā And at the end of the interview, the Los Angeles-based singer is āThereās always tomorrowā-jubilant.āWeāve solved all the worldās problems simply by avoiding them!ā The old X motto of āFuck The Worldā no longer means what it used to, she adds, now that the world has indeed, been thoroughly fucked by the coronavirus. āIt doesnāt mean that we donāt care,ā she clarifies. āIt means we care more, and we should love everyone that we can love.ā What better seasonal message could there be?
IE: Howās everything going for you this holiday season?
Exene Cervenka: Well, you have your ups and downs. I just came back from the vetā¦but itās just stuff. Weāre still here, weāre still doing this (X) thing. But you know what? Thatās it, that is life. And life is a gift. And I know it sounds corny and all that, but it is a gift, and we have to treasure it and we have to appreciate it. And thatās kind of a crazy idea, because sometimes we just donāt respect life.
IE: Traditionally, youāve always had kind of a skeptical, somewhat suspicious view of humanity, particularly during the holidays.
EC: Well, Iāve never been a cynic. But I think the ā70s, the ā60s, and the ā80s ā and you know, you live up in San Francisco ā all the positive things that everyone has worked so hard to achieve? That was done out of love and care, and it was great. So despite whoās president, we canāt fix the big stuff, but we can help each other. And that can make such an impact ā to just help people.
IE: But we also had almost three pandemic years to pause, reflect, and rest. But Humanity, it seems, has learned nothing.
EC: You know, itās the human condition. And I think the thing to do is realize that life isĀ a gift, and you can make a big impact on the people around you. We can do miracles in our lives with people, and itās actually a beautiful world. We canāt fix things at the very top, with the corporations or the pharmaceutical companies, or the governments of the world or the people behind those thrones. And sometimes fighting that just makes you angry and small. So itās best to just be grateful every day, and be of service to others, because thatās really life. Thatās what life is.
IE: Have you noticed the good will rippling through these annual X-Mas shows? Fans really look forward to them.
EC: Well, itās just great, because every show we play, we canāt believe weāre still playing, and that people are still coming. Itās so nice. And especially since the pandemic, the fact that weāre all in a room together, listening to music and actually being together? It reminded me so much of the early punk days, when we first started playing ā after that long time when no one could play, everyone was just like kids again, like, āYay! Weāre here! Yay!ā I mean, thatās how I felt. And again ā not to get too spiritual on you ā but that is that feeling of gratitude. So Iām happy. And also the venues that weāre playing this time around are some of my favorite venues, and really intimate.
IE: Youāre at the Great American Music Hall in SF. The late Townes Van Zandt once told me that he and his band recorded an afternoon sound check there, and then played the eveningās show and jumped on the tour bus headed up to Portland. But when they played back that sound check tape, there was a phantom keyboardist playing along, in perfect tune, with every song. They freaked out.
EC: There is a ghost there! Iāve had an encounter with a ghost at the Great American Music Hall myself. There was a woman in the downstairs (backstage) bathroom. I was in the bathroom by myself, and I was suddenly not alone – there was a woman in there, crying. And I asked somebody who worked there, and they were like, āOh, yeah! Her!ā So that place is very interesting to me, and San Francisco itself has this realā¦Barbary Coast quality, something no other city has. And that city must have just kept all those people alive, because whenever Iām there it seems like Iām living back in the 1800s.
IE: So itās a whole new you this Christmas, then?
EC: Iāve grown up a bit. Iām a grownup now. Iām fine, and Iām not gonna complain about anything. Every day, I wake up and go, āWell, I can look at life as crap, or I can be really happy.ā Itās like, I really thought that weād all be dead by now anyway, but weāre not. So Iām not gonna complain about a thing. I had COVID last Christmas. And I had my house decorated, and I had people coming to stay with me, and I was gonna see my son and other family and friends. There was all this stuff going on, and I was so excited, and we had all these (X-Mas) shows booked. But I got COVID, and we had to cancel the last show of the tour, and I had to be home by myself that whole time, while keeping everybody out that Iād planned to be with. And there my house was, all decorated. But I wasnāt very sick, of course, but I still couldnāt go anywhere. And I was kind of like, āThisĀ is what Iāve been so worried about? This is why I have to stay home, because I basically have a cold?ā And I could have succumbed to that, but do you know what happened? There would be a knock on the door, and there would be a friend standing there, with all kinds of food and cookies, and people coming by and putting things on the porch or constantly calling me. And it turned out to be this really beautiful Christmas, even though I was just with my dog. So I count my blessings now. Every day. And I thought, āOf all the people who had lost someone this year, for whatever reason, Iām not truly alone. And it was okay ā Iām not sickĀ sick.ā So yeah, it was weird. But now I count my blessings, every day. And the other thing is, I feel like the solstice Christmas time of year is bigger than it used to be. I love Charlie Brown, and I love the traditional Christmas. But I also love the idea of where we are ā itās an ancient time of celebration and meaning. It has a lot of meaning on a lot of levels, and in a lot of different cultures. So I like to think about it that way, as well, and I like to give people little presents or whatever.
IE: Whatās new in the X world, coming up?
EC: Well, you know we did that record, Alphabetland, and it kind of got a little waylaid because we couldnāt tour. But we were so happy with that record, and just delighted at how easy it was, and fun it was to make that record. So weāre working on more songs now, and itās really great, because itās going equally easily, and Iām like, āOh, my gosh! We could keep doing this! Why didnāt we do this sooner?ā So Iām also working ā not just with John, because John [Doe] and I are working on songs separately and together, and sending files back and forth, because heās in Texas ā but Iām also working with D.J. [Bonebrake] on songs, which Iām really happy about, so thatās different. So expect more weirdness in the future from X. More musical weirdness. And who would have thought, ya know/ I am so, so fortunate that weāre still doing this, and that people still care. I canāt say it enough ā it fills me with awe that people still wanna see us. But anyway, there will be a new X record next year ā weāve already got the studio time booked, and weāre doing it with Rob Schnapf. He is back, and we love him as a person, and a great producer. Heās kind of like Ray (Manzarek) in that way, where he can just sit and listen and be really happy to be there, and go, āWow! You guys are great!ā And then he can make just a comment on one song that completely changes it. And weāre like, āOh! Oh yes! Youāre right ā letās do that!ā He doesnāt interfere, and he makes everything better.
– Tom Lanham
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