Hello, My Name Is Martin Fry of ABC
Martin Fry still recalls the exact moment he finally understood the magnitude of what heâd achieved with The Lexicon of Love, his picture-perfect soul-pop 1982 debut with ABC. Produced by ex-Buggle (and future Yes anchor) Trevor Horn, the horn-punctuated concept album had already begun spinning out chart-topping singles like âTears Are Not Enoughâ and âPoison Arrowâ before hitting a #1 UK position itself. But the success hadnât really registered with him yet, not until the Brit heard the discâs definitive smash âThe Look of Loveâ first played in a French supermarket while he was shopping, and then later in his hometown of Sheffield around Christmas. âI was walking down this lonely street, and it was snowing,â he notes. âAnd I looked up, and I could see this window open â they were having a party, and they were playing ABCâs âThe Look of Loveâ in the party, and they were all dancing around to it.â He actually doubled back and stood watching the festivities, a feeling of well-deserved accomplishment washing over him. âAnd then I thought, âYouâve made a record, and there it is! And people are having a good time and dancing to it!â It was a really great feeling.â
It isnât easy to downplay the importance of Lexicon, easily one of the best rock albums ever made and every bit as exemplary of the early â80s New Wave era as Big Countryâs The Crossing, UltravoxâsVienna, and Scritti Polittiâs Cupid & Psyche 85. But Fry had his own unique vision, revolving around lounge-campy vocals, dress suits, Memphis-sultry saxophone and horns, and elaborate orchestral hooks that donât sound synth-cheesy (and thereby forever date-stamped) like many of their peers did. This, of course, makes it the perfect classic to re-introduce on tour in 2022, on its hallowed 40th anniversary. And given that Fry, at 64, still looks and sounds great on stage in his traditional two-piece formal togs, he felt it was important to celebrate the landmark achievement, as well, even though he is the sole remaining founding member of ABC. âSo I am so fortunate because Iâve been playing ever since those early days,â says the now-London-based artist, who penned countless new compositions during lockdown for a post-pandemic comeback. âAnd when I play a big show now, and I sing a song from a few decades earlier, and the crowd sings it back at me?â He sighs contentedly, âThat, too, is a pretty good feeling. And itâs really nice to still hear that…that appreciationâŚ.â Fry checked in from his English home office on the eve of ABCâs summer Stateside jaunt.
IE: Like me, you started with your own fanzine, right?
MARTIN FRY: Yeah. Mine was called “Modern Drugs.” Iâd write about anything that was stimulating, mainly local bands that I liked. And it was in Sheffield, so there was so much going on, like Def Leppard and The Human League back then, just loads of bands. And I didnât discover any, as such, myself â I was just documenting what was going on.
IE: Looking back, what were some influential things happening then, music or arts-wise?
MF: In Sheffield, back in the day? Well, hereâs what I think. Sheffield is an industrial city in the North of England, a steel city. But in the late â70s, early â80s, a lot of the steel factories were getting closed down, and there was a lot of unemployment. So you kind of realize, as a young man living in that city, that youâll have to do something o get up and out of there. And if you werenât gonna be a professional footballer, youâd drift into music, I suppose. And it was a great escape. But the thing that was really influential on the music was, there was this steel hammer that you would hear all night long, just kind of going, âDa-Konch! Da-Konch!â The factories just kept running, a bit like Blade Runner or a David Lynch movie. I remember seeing Eraserhead and thinking it was very much like my apartment, like my bedsit in Sheffield. And movies were a great inspiration back then, a way of challenging â or escaping from â your everyday life.
IE: The Lexicon cover shot is pretty cinematic.
MF: Yeah. And thatâs me â Iâm on there with a lady in a red dress! And looking back, I think with a lot of things we were doing, weâd kind of do cinematic pictures or try to tell a story in a picture. So thatâs where that record sleeve came from â it was a bit like a B-movie, or a bit like a Coen Brothers film.
IE: But you actually made your own companion film-noir-ish Lexicon movie back then, too, right? Called Mantrap?
MF: Yes. Somebody approached us from the BBC and said, âLook â we want to do a documentary about you, and itâs going to be about working-class guys made good from Sheffield.â And we kind of thought, âWell, thatâs a bit cliched to kind of go in like that â weâd rather do a kind of fantasy film.â So this guy Julien Temple, whoâd done The Great Rock and Roll Swindleâ and a few other things, we approached him, and we made Mantrap, which was our sort of espionage thriller. It was a very ambitious thing to try and pull off â it was a âlong-form video,â thatâs the way they would describe it back then. There were all these video clips, but kind of taken to the next level, to kind of push forward and make a longer film. So thatâs what **Mantrap is, and it features Lisa Vanderpump, who now has had a huge career on
tv.
IE: You set the bar fairly high for yourself in those days because few bands were using horns and reeds, and nobody outside of Bryan Ferry was rocking a Saville Row suit onstage.
MF: Well, Roxy Music â a massive influence on us, no doubt. Itâs a Mod thing, really, although we came through much later. But the horns, though? Yeah â I grew up listening to a diet of Motown and Atlantic, and Stax and Chess music, or Northern Soul. And funnily enough, thatâs what youâd hear at every party you went to â Edwin Starr and Marvin Gaye and Stevie Wonder and Smokey Robinson â so that was definitely ingrained. And we like funky electronic music â we were there in the early days of synthesizers and electronica, but at the same time, we loved the horns. And even now â Iâm just about to do a tour with full orchestra, and we always have a sax player whoâs got a tenor and an alto sax. And I donât know why that is, but I think thatâs always been a part of what weâve been about.
IE: When you set your sartorial standards so high, how do you tour and keep the suits clean? And how many suits do you bring with you?
MF: Well, Iâm pretty pragmatic now. Iâve got a couple of nice suitcases with wheels on them, so I roll them around. And Iâve seen bands bring three wardrobe trucks for all their costume changes, but I donât do that. Iâm usually wearing a suit, too, so that never really was my bag. So, the secret for anybody out there whoâs thinking about this kind of thing is to wear a black shirt. You can usually get three gigs out of that and then swap it around, so you need two shirts with you so you can flip it and hit the launderette in different towns.
IE: Looking back, youâre one of the first bands to portray yourselves as cartoons, as you did on 1985âs How to be a Zillionaire.
MF: We wanted to reinvent the band completely â it was myself and Mark White thinking, âLetâs become cartoon characters.â It was a way of sidestepping the last record weâd made, âBeauty Stab,â which wasnât that successful. And it was a way of kind of reigniting the band, so yeah, we did sort of build these instruments that we used on TV shows that were like cartoons, Hanna-Barbera things, like in The Archie Show. And they were one of the first cartoon bands, of course. But yeah, we really got into that, and songs like âBe Near Meâ from that period were really popular in America. People kind of liked that larger-than-life aspect of it, I suppose. I mean, we were never going to be cartoons. But it was kind of nice trying.
IE: How have you maintained your voice over the years?
MF: A couple of lozenges, a cup of tea. Ha! Actually, I ride my bike, or I sometimes spend time by the sea, and I swim in the sea. And I find that really helps the voice for some reason. But itâs like an old car engine â youâve just got to keep it tuned and keep it running. Youâve got to drive âround the block now and again and just keep the engine warm. So I never take that for granted because to get onstage and sometimes sing for two hours is physically a lot of work. But I really enjoy that, and whilst I can hit the notes, most of those songs are in the same key they were in originally. I think I tweaked one song â âTears Are Not Enoughâ is in D now. So whilst I can sing, I still enjoy playing live. But I think once your voice goes? Forget it. There are a lot of singers out there that do try to paper over the cracks.
IE: Where are some of the weirdest places youâve discovered an ardent fan base? Or a fan, singular, who flew you in for a private show?
MF: You hear stories of these various artists like Amy Winehouse or Lady Gaga going in and playing these massive private shows. So one of the weirdest shows we ever did was in Russian 12 years ago in Moscow. This Russian oligarch guy asked if we would play at his wedding, so we were flown in to play the show. And we went through the airport, got in the car, and were whisked into a part of Moscow where there were these massiveâŚI wouldnât even say they were mansions â they were more like hotels. But people lived in them, and there was a guy guarding the gate with a gun who would let you inside the compound. So we did a show for the guyâs wedding, and then the guys who worked for him said, âRight, thank you, ABC! Now you can go over there â weâve got some rooms lined up for you in that building.â And we walked in, and it was like The Shining â there were five of us, and we walked into this virtual hotel, where we had a bedroom on each floor. It really was incredibly odd, so that was one of the strangest gigs we ever did. But they were really appreciative and really into the music. And then we went straight back to the airport. But I remember the oligarch had a guy who was employed just to roll his cigars â that was the kind of man he was. So unless youâve got a professional cigar roller on your right-hand side? Hey â you have not really arrived yet!
ABC appear at the Des Plaines Theatre on Saturday, July 9
–Â Tom Lanham
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